- quickieee 2010/08/08 05:08:04
- so shinon is inactive?
- Sosuke_Aizen 2010/07/28 20:08:44
- Anata no pantī o miru koto ga watashi wa...
- Dartagnian 2010/07/28 15:55:00
- I agree that Shinon should be banned for multi-account just like Fuma130 was banned for multi and autoing and so many others were, for the same reason. If people are blind to cheating then it will never stop, and thus tempers rise because people have dedicated time into this game while NOT cheating. If CR, or anyother guild would weed out the multi's i wonder what the ranks would look like then...
The Pen is Mightier than the Sword.
- Ashae 2010/07/23 01:31:31
- "Indigo, it was you who could not be bothered to check the BBS, I'm not going to do the work for you."
But you did it... Oups.
You're right, let's leave it at that. Everyone *cough* maybe 10 persons on the BBS know now the happy ending of the story.
Have a good day everyone~!
Hello from Tokyo (to the 10 persons) by the way <3
- Lilith2nite 2010/07/23 00:57:13
- Indigo, it was you who could not be bothered to check the BBS, I'm not going to do the work for you. Like I said, my claims had substance, otherwise they would have never been made in the first place.
As for Miaa, yes she's a great leader for KoA.
And although your entitled to your own opinions on me, I must say that I couldn't care less either way.
Lets leave it at that.
- Sosuke_Aizen 2010/07/22 20:51:20
- sigh.. everyones so serious it seems like this game is no longer for fun
- IndigoWraithe 2010/07/22 19:09:57
- @Lilith:
"I am not stating something which is not true. So IndigoWraithe, I will ignore your pettyness and overlook your blindness. If you don't want to read the BBS that's not my problem."
i ask for honesty and you say its petty? was it so difficult for you to do as miaa and post a link? and my dear, it is your problem because you need to supply evidence. period. not just for me, but what about those you wish to convince to support you? third parties and ppl in your own guild. do you think they'll take your word for it? you would have only helped yourself, instead you sling mud at me as if i care. as if it helps your case to call me names. not that it matters now anyway, since miaa has done all the heavy lifting for you.
- IndigoWraithe 2010/07/22 18:51:24
- @Miaa, thank you. at last, so many posts in, proof was provided. honestly, if a man goes to court and accuses someone of robbing him, but has no proof on hand and then tells the judge, "Well, go to his house, you'll see he has my laptop" is that not utterly idio tic? but i will say this, you continue to prove yourself as a level-headed and competent leader, less incendiary than most. its unfortunate that you have been so vilified, but the grudge between your guild and ours runs deep. "to break this vicious circle one must do more than act without any thought or doubt." but that will not happen on either side. so long as there are men of power and men who desire to be, there will be war.
- Ashae 2010/07/22 17:36:28
- Quote Miaa "@Ashae You might revere Sushi, but a lot of the rest of us remember him as yet another multi-accounting cheater who autoplayed, boasted of gains achieved by cheating, and who got other players to buy his virtual equips for real cash. Compromising with that kind of thing should not be in the repertoire of anyone who treasures honesty."
Didn't remember ever posting on this thread, thank you for your care, Miaa. And you're the one to talk about honesty that's right LOL.
Quote Lilith "Just so we are clear IndigoWraithe."
You have been clear enough with your last post, or maybe the three posts of Miaa just after he posted? Don't use Indigo as an excuse to rub it. But I guess you may need more attention... maybe a guild all message would do the trick?
- Lilith2nite 2010/07/22 15:28:19
- Just so we are clear IndigoWraithe.
The leader of TMG said this:
"As for Shinon, she has been told to stop using Mithra's account."
If you can't be bothered to look for yourself on the BBS, your just denying yourself this fact. I don't think this issue needs to be futher proven, do you..?
- Miaa 2010/07/22 13:43:49
- It's the job of a guild leader to deal with cheating in his/her guild, if the guildies don't. Period.
- ninetailfox 2010/07/22 12:48:10
- he is cheating or that person is cheating. everywhere cheating done. girlfriend cheats on boyfriend, ppls cheats fed. govt. in tax, ppl fools cops while dealing selling drugs, etc. everyone cheats in his life time some for money and other things. looks like everyone here is follower of gandhi and Dr. king. when we are doing it is ok when other do cheating it is bad.
- Miaa 2010/07/22 01:50:42
- @Indigo I forgot to include the link to THREAD 1695 (proof of Shinon's multi-ing):
http://dragon.bg-time.com/community/bbs/qna/detail.php?q_no=1695
- Lilith2nite 2010/07/22 00:58:00
- If it's money the SD team prefer, then it's pointless making rules, as they mean NOTHING in the long run.
So in that case, I've spent money in the past, does that make me exempt from the rules like everyone else who have spent money on this game..?
Anyway, I'm not making unfounded claims here, I am not stating something which is not true. So IndigoWraithe, I will ignore your pettyness and overlook your blindness. If you don't want to read the BBS that's not my problem.That's your choice. Maybe you won't like what you read..?
I have..!
I have many other names in the pot, for multi account use, and funny thing is their all CR players. But as yet I'm not 100% sure on these so I will wait until I get confirmation first before I post their names here and to admin.
This post should have been made a long long time ago..!
- Miaa 2010/07/22 00:12:50
- @IndigoWraithe My word is good. Here is one of the posts, but there have been many, many more.
@Ashae You might revere Sushi, but a lot of the rest of us remember him as yet another multi-accounting cheater who autoplayed, boasted of gains achieved by cheating, and who got other players to buy his virtual equips for real cash. Compromising with that kind of thing should not be in the repertoire of anyone who treasures honesty.
Number 1695 Registered name Mithra Date 2010/06/26 18:36:19
Title B> Ring of MagicBlast +6
Content Buying Ring of MagicBlast +6
Pm me your price.
Thanks,
Shin
Shinon 2010/06/26 20:12:00
I guess whoever wants post anything those days in here...
Lilith2nite 2010/06/26 18:55:52
I have 8 of them but I think I will hold on to those Mithra, I mean Shinon, I mean, I mean, gosh so very weird yet blatently clear.
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- Haravieka 2010/07/21 22:55:42
- @Machida
LOL...you got what i mean:)
- Machida 2010/07/21 22:39:09
- @hara 7d admins would choose money :D
simple fact: no money = no game = no rules. lol
- IndigoWraithe 2010/07/21 22:26:35
- @Haravieka: lol, you make a good point. I wonder how much they really care about cheaters? or is it all a matter of $$$. :P
- IndigoWraithe 2010/07/21 22:26:13
- @AntrimGlensman: i didn't say she had "no proof" i said she "provided no proof" this is a big difference. i am willing to be openminded about this, but i am unaware of any cheating. that doesn't mean there isn't any, i'm just not aware of it. moreover, the history of accusations railed against CR by Lilith is staggering. this is what is called, to cry wolf, is it not? i ask for proof so that i may judge it myself. it is heresay and conjecture until such time when you all can redirect me (and everyone else for that matter) to these threads you have all mentioned. again, i'm asking for honesty here. is that not within my right?
I don't really know enough about computers and all that to comment on your IP address point.
you'll excuse me if I cannot help being more than a little terse over things like this. it was old and pathetic in January and it is now July.
- IndigoWraithe 2010/07/21 22:02:31
- i rarely get on the BBS, as it bores me. i asked for proof since none was given in the initial post. Do you understand the concept of "Burden of Proof" if you make an accusation, you need to back it up yourself, don't just say, "In an earlier thread she said so which is legitimate proof." its not trash Lilith and Miaa, its me asking you to be forthcoming and not to just post accusations without backing them up. i'd ask that of anyone, friend or foe. and you still haven't provided the proof, either. there are 1721 earlier threads, how should I know which one? moreover, it is not my job to look, since you are the one who needs the proof to back up your claims. i ask only for honesty. if you can give the evidence, then facts are facts, i won't dispute them. but i won't trust your word alone. your word is worth less than a grain of sand.
- Haravieka 2010/07/21 20:36:26
- I think this situation make the 7th admin in a dilemmatic position....rules or money...^^
- Miaa 2010/07/21 19:57:10
- @TFL It takes months for admins to deal with petitions, a fact the multi-ers are counting on.
@Indigo Shinon not only admitted this on a previous thread, one day she actually posted from Mithra's acc, continuing points she'd started on her own posts. Multi-ing has been a habit in CR from the start. It is one reason you guys have maintained your edge--Raystyle, Sushi, Shinon, there's a huge long list. It is not the case on other servers, by the way. On Rarus, for example, guild Arcane and guild noname (allied, both guilds have CR and KoA players) have worked together to ban multi-accs.
- TheFallenLord 2010/07/21 18:58:01
- creating another account to have a multi = auto banishment
getting an account into your possession to help for siege was recently banished.
so regardless what we say, the 7d admins will ban whoever is abusing, theres not much need to put up a post, just send an inquiry.
- AntrimGlensman 2010/07/21 18:06:54
- IndigoWraithe and all users. May I first point out I am in Serenity so take from that what you will. Yes it is clear Serenity would benefit from Shinnon and other multiple account holders being banned.
IndigoWraithe states Lilith2nite has no proof when Shinon clearly stated it in a previous post
Firstly we are agreed on one point Multi accounts are definitely a NO NO Well there is a way you may or may not know that every computer has an IP address. So those with multiple accounts will show as using the same IP address unless they always use different computers! !.
So I would ask Seventh Dragon admin to check this and remove all those members who,s IP address shows up as a multiple user. I would also say to any members doing so they can prove it guys and girls and it would be wise to stop. May I also ask that we keep the conversation on here civilised and do not reduce this to just having a pop at each other. There is a valid point. No multiple accounts AntrimGlensman
- Lilith2nite 2010/07/21 16:06:42
- Like I said, if you want to post, then be constructive. This is not a dispute, it's a FACT..!
And in answer to your question, No, I'm not scared of Shinon, why would I be..? I think you mean to say that she may be "scared" of a player or 2 from Serenity. The proof is in the pudding is it not :)
- Torthal 2010/07/21 15:55:30
- no, i will accuse you cause you said it by yourself that you have multiple accounts :P "all of the players in SD has multiple accounts"
yes it is good to say that if she is. are you afraid to lose her and that yours guild will fall down without her? :P
in rules there is stated that it is not allowed to have more then one account, so it should be like that.
if you cannot understand it then you shouldn't touch enething that comes with rules
- ninetailfox 2010/07/21 15:34:14
- hi dude i told u already this is not good to say he/she is cheater(in senerity recruiting forum). are u afraid of her? it is a good thing to get rid of enemy member how helps in runs and organizing whole tmg guild. appro. all of the players in SD has multiple accounts.
later on, you will accuse me of multiply-acc. as my bro and me has almost same user names.
if i say i have control over your account then will you trust my words.
- Lilith2nite 2010/07/21 15:21:48
- Proof..?
IndigoWraith, you have no eyes..?
When Shinon herself admitted she had control over Mithra's account on a previous BBS thread. Did you not read that one..? And then on a more recent thread you see a high ranked TMG player saying the same thing..? Did you not see that one either..?
You make me lol. Back up your friend, but do it at your peril. Your making yourself look pretty stupid. Not going to entertain your foolish talk, so keep it down.
No one sould have excess to another account period. So IndigoWraithe, rather than post trash, be constructive and find me players who are proven multi account users, as this is what this thread is designed for.
- IndigoWraithe 2010/07/21 14:34:19
- While any and all multi-accounting is definitely a no-no, I would like to know exactly how you know that Shinon has multiple accounts? Where is your proof? What is your evidence? Its highly suspect for you to say, "Shinon has multiple accounts, so she should be banned" when you are an enemy of CR and its in your best interest to get rid of strong CR players. You are not an objective third party, it would benefit you greatly to get rid of Shinon. These baseless accusations are obviously fueled by your ulterior motives and not a desire to clean up the server and weed out cheaters, though you would have us believe otherwise. As you have provided no proof and taking into account your own self-interests in this matter, who in their right mind would ever believe that your accusations are anything other than a ploy to eliminate your enemies. Honestly, have you no shame? Have you no spine? Have you no self-respect not to drag your own name through the mud? This is childish and beneath us all.
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